that is so weird it said 37 earlier. I dunno then... weird...
They changed the stats on me once.
They subtracted a passing yard and 6 rushing yards from Marcus Vick, lol.
College stats sometimes happen like that.
i think it might have to do with how sacks are counted. They count against rushing yards in the pros i think... in the big leagues they count against passing yards, but scrambles, runs out of bounds, and kneels count as rushes.
Getting sacked in the NFL doesn't subtract from your rushing yards.
In college, it does.
Vick got served. A lot.
agreed. I feared this, but ya know I thought the VT d and special teams would make up for it. The way you stop a Vick is with speed on defense, not bulk. You can be big but they will elude you easily... like a fly buzzing around a turtle. But you get a fast defense you can catch them and stop them. This is why the other Vick will kill the other Miami Football team in about 12 hours.
Both teams are a little crappy on offense.
However, I think the running backs will make all the difference.
Whichever defense bottles the opponent's running back (regardless of Mike Vick) should be the victor.
Beamer's a nice guy.
Unfortunately, your Vick duo is the anti-Christ of football. I fucking hate those guys so much, as they are no where near what one can call a QB.
2005-11-07 05:27 am (UTC)
It's a breath of relief for me to speak to someone who understands.
When a disagreement materializes, people are so partisan that they take the other person as "the enemy" or "the opposite" of what they hold.
I am used to this, and unfortunately, when I say I hate the Vicks, when I speak this to someone who doesn't, or even, someone who likes them, I expect the worst.
It's funny that we don't like them for different reasons.
Because of the "progress" from their backs, your area of the country becomes set for . . . McRape. You can thank ESPN's staff for some of that hoopla and popularity with your school, since they were the ones to support and repeatedly cite the excitement of those two QBs. You can also thank the citizens of your region for their sheep-like behavior. They, naturally, when faced with larger attention and more money, will naturally want to support this new wave of prosperity with more creature comforts. They're comforts, of course, to humans and little else.
I am less concerned with such things for only the reason that I've grown up in an urban area decades into it. That doesn't mean I don't understand. What's happening here in SEMI . . . the city of Detroit rots. Parts of New Orleans look very similar to parts of the western side of Detroit. When houses go unattended, they fall into disrepair, and unused buildings are never demolished. As the suburbs grow from this eroded core, the citizens continue to build north and west from the city. When I was younger, there were few developed regions at what is known as Hall Road, aka 20 Mile. When my parents were younger, the 16 Mile, aka Metro Parkway, was the sprawl's limit. Today, there's development most of the way up into the 30 Mile range. It's a mess, Marcus. I hate this region.
I hate it, however, for the irresponsible behavior of the leaders of the communities. As populations swell, like the NYC and Los Angeles regions, it's necessary to build more of the creature comforts. Unfortunately, SEMI isn't growing at the core. The city of Detroit continues to decline in population. None of the buildings are ever torn down, nor do the city services have a track record of consistency. The schools are horrible, and drugs are abused so routinely by the residents that the local pushers are only concerned about federal stings. The local cops don't do anything about it. The police are so overworked by the handful of real problem residents that they really miss a lot of routine parts of keeping the peace. Good people can really get hurt in Detroit, and the level of income that Detroit receives often features friends and relatives signed up on city services for little or no actual work provided.
Instead, everyone who used to live (approximately a similar number for years) within that 20-mile-to-8 region now moves out of that area to new developments above the once-new areas. This region seems bent upon leaving a mess instead of renovation. I have no idea how a high-rise apartment couldn't support a swell of people better than a new subdivision. I fucking hate subdivisions in SEMI. Each one, probably throughout this country, has a "rat's nest" design. What that means . . . there are 3-5 entrance/exits. The block has winding streets, none of them symmetrical in a standard efficiency of street grids. Traffic bottles at the handful of entrance/exits. These communities block themselves from the world in an attempt to live out some sick fucking subconscious need to be home on the prairie. It makes no sense to me, at least. I'm a city boy, and I demand any new developments vertical instead of horizontal. I like my streets easy to navigate. I despise asymmetry. I crave mass transit and freeway systems designed to support record traffic levels, like what happened in Houston when the hurricane Rita loomed. Proper city planning takes the current maximum, takes data, multiplies based on the percentage trends, and builds for maximum based on decades in the future.
Yeah, that was me. Sorry about the anonymity, lol. I forgot to login.
Marcus, I don't like the Vicks, and I really don't like Kevin Jones. All three are products of the Virginia Tech Hokies football program. I have very large contempt in my heart to the mentality of a sporting professional in his or her desire to earn money on a level they do not deserve.
Why don't they deserve the money, I'm asked? They don't deserve the millions because they don't own anything. Owners are the only entities who deserve figures so lucrative. This country forgets the value of ownership, as we switch into a service-crazed economy.
When kids get into college, many who are athletes receive a free education. I don't feel free educations should be given to athletes. I think they should be given for academic performance, but apparently, grades don't make a school as much money as television coverage for a popular sport.
Contrast this with my utter love of sports. People need sports. It helps the masses understand, cope with each other, and provide for entertainment in idle time. I love sports because I have thorough understanding. I also enjoy the "class acts," those people who play the sport, love it, work well with their teammates, and thoroughly understand the sport they play.
As I grow older, I have less patience for lack of intelligence within the sports. Of those three players I mentioned, I literally hold them responsible for all that is wrong in football. I really don't like Kevin Jones because he's done nothing in Detroit since he's been here. Half a season last year has been all that he's accomplished in terms of success. As for the Vicks, I don't see intelligence in them. I'm sorry, but I require a QB with a few necessities, such as a bright mind, strong presence, good arm, and a penchant to look for the forward pass before they take off on a scramble.
In the early days of American football, guys like the Vicks were standard. The Vicks have freakish speed, but I mean that guys who scrambled and ran options were what the NFL did back in the day. Well, as the league grew, the rules went in favor of the forward pass. I love the forward pass, Marcus, and I believe that a real QB is a John Elway, Donovan McNabb, Steve Young, Joe Montana, Johnny Unitas, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, and the like.
Each of those guys look/looked to pass. Some of them have/had mobility if the play breaks down. However, they know passing, and that's what they do/did.
The Vicks, for years, between the two have shown little discipline in the regular mechanics of a passing game. They are basically allowed, by limit of their average intelligence and their popularity, to do way too much freestyle, often which calls for fake passes and scrambles. To me, that's garbage football.
As for Virginia Tech, I can like that school, just like I can like the Falcons. I can avoid the media parades held for the Vicks. I can school people who don't get what's wrong with them just what is.
However, this year, I noticed a sickening number of know-nothing Virginia Tech fans appear on the internet. Suddenly, everyone is drawn to the sport based off of a kid who doesn't even play the game the right way? This is a kid who was suspended for drug use already in his short career. I don't have a problem with drugs, but the NCAA and the NFL certainly do. That's irresponsible, not only of the younger Vick but the older Vick to portray disregard for the rules. I won't even list the number of poor decisions the older Vick has made in the NFL. Ron Mexico sums that clown.
You'll have to forgive me for joy in Miami's victory over Virginia Tech. I don't x-fer the dishonor of the Vicks upon the rest of the players or the coach, who really is a good guy. I don't believe, however, that the school should ever have accepted either Vick. They do not provide the right kind of example for younger fans, and they really do not play with proper fundamentals of the game. They are more in it for themselves, I feel, than for their teammates. They're no Terrell Owens, but they're related.
What it also boils down in my dislike . . . the Vicks, in particular, have been received in this nation as media darlings. They are given the honor and respect and verbal accolades and prominence of Super Bowl Champions for none of the accomplishment. At the very same time, guys with better character, intelligence, and better passing ability have come out of college and received almost the opposite. When the Vicks fail, they receive excuses made for them. When others fail, they receive disparagement. The others receive a verbal cross, in comparison.
I'm all for continuous improvement, and I'm all for criticism when someone falls quite short of the goal, as long as the goal was attainable. However, I want disparagement for all failures, not just the select few who seem to win the hearts of the nation by proxy of favoritism within the media.
The media, I feel, is also as partisan, if not worse at times than some of the uglier special interests.
2005-11-07 03:40 pm (UTC)
Re: Part 2.
a good joke that was going around...
did you hear marcus vick was transfering to a new school?
...brigham young [pronounced: bring 'em young] :D
Nike's two-tone asymmetric gear is awful.
That was about as bad as the retro uniforms Miami wore the previous week which made them look similar to Tulsa. They played so poorly the previous week in those dreadful throwbacks that this week's win against VT came as a huge surprise.
So you actually went to that game?
Man, I am sorry, if that's the case. You understand, in part, the nature of a Detroit Lions game.
If only that school would never have allowed the Vicks into it.
I have a question . . . is the "Tech" in Virginia Tech a part of their name which represents technical degrees like architecture, engineering, and computer engineering?
I always believed such schools were supposed to be a cut above the rest.
If that's the case, then why are they pandering to student athletes who have no real business at that school outside of football?
I dont know if i should be happy or sad VT lost. I hate VT.. but i hate miami. Mainly because they used to both burn pitt/wvu (two teams i follow cause i like/friends like) all the time in the big east.
It was good to see that Ron Mexicos Little brother Dick Guatamala get stuffed.
Any team that buries those two shitheads is a team of mine that week.
I have made myself a friend of yours in the LiveJournal portion of the internet.
That is all.
So, Seattle Seahawks... legit or so shit this year?
They're going to remain shaky until they actually do something.
Not that every sport operates the same, but they do operate similarly due to human nature.
Exhibit A - Miami Heat, Phoenix Suns.
Everyone and their dog seemed to want these two in the 2005 NBA Finals. Didn't happen. Not enough post season experience, that's what did it.
Seahawks are by nature a team poor in that category. See Chargers last year.
Legit, for regular season? Sure, so long as they don't lose Alexander or Hassbuckok. The defense seems to work better, and that's why I say legit in the slimmest sense.
Anything's better, however, than the NFC North. Be thankful the football is watchable, and be extra thankful that the Seahawks have a shot at making waves.