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It Was Eventual for DVD Format. [Feb. 13th, 2004|02:28 pm]
Sauce1977
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I just popped in Lost In Translation, and I was forced to skip through 'paid advertisements' in order to get to the DVD menu.

I'm trying not to get angry about it, but DVD is about choice. I don't mind if they have the previews in a sub-menu, but being forced to fast-forward through 5 minutes of dated movies is beyond my comprehension.

So to the bright minds behind the decision, be it Universal execs, Focus Films execs, and/or American Zoetrope, I say,

You're number one.
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[User Picture]From: sm0t
2004-02-14 12:30 am (UTC)
i rented a dvd with those forced previews the other day. Man did tht piss me off!!! It's like those new pop-up ads on the net that you have to look at before having the option to click away. Bastards!
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2004-02-14 05:48 pm (UTC)

"I'll buy THAT for a dollar!"

Like IGN.com?

I wanted to find out why in blazes Ed Wood was not released on DVD yet.

I knew the studio had a release date in early February, and I haven't seen any in stores.

Well, I found a googled link to IGN.com, and those ad-whore monkeys . . .

They had a HUGE Metroid game ad.

I had to click a box to get rid of it.

I'm sure they were happily installing data miner cookies too.

If a company cannot support their products/services as-is, aka self-sufficiency, then they shouldn't have a business. It is belittling to the company to have to resort to quelling their own voice to make the voices of their pimps much larger.
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[User Picture]From: freys
2004-02-14 03:30 am (UTC)
*laughs* So very true.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2004-02-14 05:54 pm (UTC)

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I'm not quite as pissed off about it as I was when I posted.

Actually, I was totally upset at the decision by Focus Features (I watched to find out who the hell it was).

What bothers me . . . it's a wonderful film. A work of art shouldn't have a big honking corporate logo on it.

A great film to watch, if you can stomach the ultra-violence . . . Robocop. That is the only film worth watching in the series, and it's Paul V's finest directing hour. I'm biased, however, because it takes place in "New Detroit" in the future.

Paulie V, the director, was a man who was affected by the Nazi barbarism during WW2. It influences his work, particularly his eye for graphic violence, where he pulls no punches at how grisly violence truly is.

Paulie also has a flair for demonstrating the ludicrous nature of advertising throughout Robocop. He makes great fun in parodies of companies during the film. It is a loose criticism of how the private sector can never truly replace the government responsibility, due to the free-wheeling, laissez-faire environment that the private sector enjoys AND abuses.
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[User Picture]From: anthrogeek
2004-02-14 05:24 am (UTC)
hi just came across your journal...

i completely agree -- so annoying. i almost don't want to go out to the movies anymore because of the same reason. it's not cool that you're paying to watch advertisements that want you to to pay to buy their product.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2004-02-14 06:15 pm (UTC)

Hello!

I'm glad you commented.

It's quite the big show of ads these days, that's for sure.

More to come!
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2004-02-14 06:23 pm (UTC)

Differences in Audience Behavior.

The only ads I truly enjoy are the ones that gear up and show during the Super Bowl. Those I catch, only because it's the accepted showcase for new ads, ad companies, and corporations. At millions of dollars per 30 second ad, they're taking a huge gamble, so the risk and reward are balanced.

Have you been to the movies lately? It takes 20 minutes to get to the actual film in Los Angeles. I accept this here, as the town runs on the money of the world that is spent on the Hollywood product.

However, back home, most people are workers for the auto production companies. The Detroit service industry is minimal in comparison to the behemoth of service in LA.

Production and Service are two different mindsets in the business world. Production-based environments in particular are internal thought systems. Because the product is the focus, the social structure of areas dominated by production have an air of ignorance due to the large lack of attention to the outer world.

Given this, I noticed that the environment back home was different from the environment here. In LA, people are very open and outgoing. This is the exact opposite in Detroit. To talk to someone back home, the reaction is "you MUST want something, and you ain't gettin' shiiit."

So, in metro Detroit theatres, the audience would literally despise and audibly curse the 10 minutes of advertising before a film. People would talk, scream obscenities at the screen, and do everything but pay attention until the film began.

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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2004-02-14 06:40 pm (UTC)

Possibly, you're forced to watch ads that tell you "no."

In service, one of the words that you cannot say is "no" to a customer.

Anything but "no."

However, the film and music industry have a very large ego, and it is personified through the poor stuntman-spokesman, Manny Perry.

One particular message tactic which I hate in particular, that is the "Manny Perry Says Stop Pirating" ad.

It plays before every movie, everywhere.

I feel sorry for Manny. That poor bastard would be less-despised if the ad campaign featured a smattering of different people. If that was the case, he'd have blended in with the crowd. In fact, having about 100 different ads with every type of film and music industry worker would have been a better campaign.

A large and diverse group solidifies that argument in their favor. The key point becomes "You're not hurting one, but you're hurting all of us."

Yet, poor Manny stumbles through a lame and weak argument. "It's not right, we do such hard work, and they push a couple buttons, and they reap all the benefit," says Manny.

Sorry, Manny. Here's the worlds smallest violin playing for you, and here's why.


1. No one's pushing a couple of buttons, as if piracy was done by joystick. Someone wasn't familiar with computers.

2. No one in the world believes or will ever believe that anyone in entertainment works hard, because many don't in comparison to the people who do work hard for much less.

Manny might be risking his life by doing stunts for cash, but Jessica Simpson can be a total idiot and not know that Chicken of the Sea is Tuna. Yet, her income is probably six or seven figures, in a league many times above the common worker.

3. Manny, you're on all the time, every film, in a place where people are trying to escape reality at 10 dollars a pop.

That again isn't Manny's fault, but it's even more evil when the notion that an ad company, at the behest of the entertainment industry, used ol' Manny, a "commoner" in the industry, someone who the audience can "identify," to procure their message of "stop stealing" when the industry itself has no real demonstrated sympathy for the common consumer.

The entertainment industry, with it's ever-expanded ego, does this Manny Perry routine, before every film, with a message of "NO" to consumers who came and paid to enjoy their product.

If that isn't insult on top of injury, I don't know what is.

It's instances like these that compel consumers to disregard and steal, rather than respect copyrights, due to the rather weak argument, stupid time, and horrible place to put an ad.

Such a notion makes ol' Manny's argument useless.

And the entertainment industry wonders why people do this.

That doesn't even get into the discussion of why people should pay 18 dollars for an album that has one decent song on it.
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[User Picture]From: _crack_my_ribs
2004-02-14 07:20 am (UTC)
the other day i was thinking about advertising. my car has the dealership logo where we purchased it...they are getting free advertising and so is every other dealership with their logo, or something on our cars! they owe us!
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2004-02-14 06:55 pm (UTC)

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Man, I'd be asking for money from a lot of companies if that were the case! In fact, all the Nirvana shirts I own, I'd be asking Courtney Love for a cut.

In particular, the difference is sponsorship.

If for instance, you had your car, let's say it was any car, oh, a Nissan XL Whatevah.

Let's say that everywhere you looked, you saw ads for "Powered by Microsoft!" all over the car.

That can become annoying. It's Microsoft that's got parts in the car, but Microsoft also paid for advertising of their logo and their simple message, everywhere in the Nissan.

In other words, Microsoft is a sponsor of the car.

Just like in NASCAR, even though I hate vehicles . . . lol . . . On TV if you've ever watched NASCAR, like the Daytona 500 or one of their races, all the cars have like 100 different logos on them. They're all sponsors, and they all paid rights to put their logo and possibly a message on the car.

In the case of your dealership, they're not sponsors. They're dealers . . . they are in a partnership with your car producer to house and sell the product in the dealership. It's like a franchise of sorts, like how Mickey D's owns the name and rights to the logos and products and whatnot through McDonald's corporation, yet the stores themselves are owned by local folks who run the store and front and sell the product for Mickey D's.

It is a minor form of advertising, but it's not exactly sponsorship in the true sense . . . though it's similar to what Focus Features had in their own movie for Lost In Translation.

That, however, is an instance where it's more like NBC pays for it's own advertising on it's own network during the commercials for one of their shows. Like, if you saw Friends, you probably saw maybe 25% of the ads coming from NBC during the commercials.

That gets into complex stuff . . . heh. :D
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[User Picture]From: mostlie_sunnie
2004-02-16 01:57 pm (UTC)
That pisses me off *almost* as much as having to sit through ads at a theater after paying $10 to be there.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2004-02-16 04:55 pm (UTC)
I know, and in particular, the "Manny Perry says Put An End To Piracy" ad.

They're preaching to the wrong audience.

Especially those who paid to watch the movie.

I don't mind watching movie trailers, but ads for Coke and Ford and Nissan and anything non-movie related are unwelcome, unless it's really funny, and sadly, I only want to see it once. After that, it becomes stagnant.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2004-02-16 09:19 pm (UTC)

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But Wait!

There is one movie-industry related ad that they can play, and I'll laugh, every time.

I've probably mentioned it before somewhere in some journal or response . . .

"Mr. Inconsiderate Cell Phone Man" is priceless.

Basically, this obnoxious-facial-gesturing guy talks on his cell phone to a poppy-sounding song . . . it's background music of ladies singing to kind of a light jazz song, "It's Mister Inconsiderate Cell Phone Man!"

"So Inconsiderate!"

"Mmmmmmmuummmmmm"

They chime in with the lyrics in between the guy's demonstrations of his obnoxious cell phone use.

"Get this . . . the dude . . . was a chick."

Girls: "So inconsiderate!"

"MAULED BY A TIGER!"

"It's pronounced Kuh-rah-tay.

Girls: "Mmmmmmummmmm"

At the end, he says:

"Don't worry . . . I gotta MILLION minutes."

That ad cracks me up every time. I know people like this, who use their cells, in theatres.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2004-02-26 11:54 am (UTC)

I found the one ad I enjoy before movies!

Inconsiderate Cell Phone Man rocks it like the hurricane.

I can't find the link again, but I saved the internet file.

Yay!
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[User Picture]From: mostlie_sunnie
2004-02-27 05:35 am (UTC)

Re: I found the one ad I enjoy before movies!

Eh...I don't care how entertaining the ad is! I don't want to *pay* to watch advertisements. I'd gladly sit through ads for a reduced-price movie ticket, but for $10, I shouldn't be forced to watch any commercials.

It's the principle of the thing, damnit.
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