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I Swear That Argument Isn't My Greatest Love. [Nov. 22nd, 2005|02:20 am]
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Regardless, I'm a total mental-deficient for doing it so much on the internet, regardless of win or loss.

I suppose my virulence can be summed this way:

When a proper place at whatever table is not made, then I tend to break the chair legs of those with the seats.

This Patch of Internet Special Olympics.

The point, in sum:

Jiri Fischer, a professional hockey player, collapsed during last night's game from a seizure.

After it was announced over the PA that he was okay, the announcer notified the crowd that the game was cancelled.

While some feel a player's serious injury is grounds for cancellation of a game, I do not.

I do feel, however, that death or serious threat to health/safety is proper grounds for cancellation.

In more than one case, professional sports players, from events on the field, have not only been sent to the hospital, but they've been crippled, and in some cases, they've died. In those cases I cited, the game continued.

Given the nature of the professional level of the sport, and the numerous obligations that link themselves to the sense of professionalism, I believe, unlike the majority, that tonight's cancellation of the hockey game was without much justification and therefore improper use for cancellation of the game.

Of course, I can do this all with holding proper concern in my mind and heart for Jiri, while holding a completely calm heart rate. Hey, even my English held up fairly well!

Just remember, the next time someone goes to the hospital at your job, make sure you show your boss the Red Wings game, and tell them that you cannot work any further that day!

If you do that, don't blame me for your pink slip. ;D

PS - I'm not actually proud of any of this. That's never really my aim. I can't say that zero self-amusement results from such nonsense, but the amusement always results from another's failure to comprehend a body of text, followed by the general idea of "Are you fucking crazy?" and "Let's donkey punch this fucker."

By the way, Jiri is fine. He was joking with his teammates at the hospital.


[User Picture]From: salivar
2005-11-22 07:57 am (UTC)
Just remember: This is the *new* NHL. They're trying to re-invent the game. Make it more fan friendly. The entire landscape of the once tough sport has changed.

That or everyone forgot what to do. I wouldn't be surprised about that little tidbit of information. At least they didn't try to ring 19,000 bells...

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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-22 08:10 am (UTC)
Yeah, and tonight's event only makes me more in favor of keeping the television on other channels.

It's kind of blasphemy, on par with actions of pure evil in Detroit, to give a giant thumbs-down to anything the Red Wings do. So, in a way, I knew what I was up against in the linked thread.

I'm very used to seeing football continue through most every incident. There, within, rests my bias.

The NHL, on the token of re-invention, can't squeeze more out of the turnip that is the wallets of North America's general population. Nor will it ever translate well into regions of the continent which have few or no days below 32 degrees farenheit.

I watched the NHL for years. I understand hockey. I just grew to dislike the NHL. The lockout helped me completely divorce myself from it.

There, as well, rests more bias.

What's most amusing in this evening's nuclear post . . . I don't watch hockey. My other family members do. The TV set was used by another member of the family to tune into the game.

I do not fault anyone who loves hockey and/or the NHL for doing so. My Heidi is another big hockey fan. I love her no less for her love of such low-grade entertainment.

Nor do I fault anyone who dislikes sports. There are plenty of things in sports and sports themselves which I detest. Most sports I see as completely trivial. The level of income of the professional sports, however, makes enough justification to give them a piece of credibility to the serious businesses that they truly are.

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[User Picture]From: salivar
2005-11-22 08:26 am (UTC)
I wouldn't say the post was along the lines of nuclear levels... it sort of broke the ice. A lot of people were not really sure how to talk NHL... and you showed them in your own way how to break the ice wall down and talk hockey.

And if the NHL really didn't give a shit they'd start taking advice from Bill Simmons and institute the heel defenseman in OT... one guy from a team, chosen at random, would do everything to sabotage his team's efforts. The suspense would never end...

But you do raise a valid point. After being conditioned to watching football and how it goes on after everything (injury and emotional trauma wise) it's hard to lend creedence to a sport that pulls the plug after eight minutes of hesitation followed by the announcement that IT LIVES!!!

Give my regards to your family. Anyone that can help you get through Harrington's Haunting is automatically my hero.

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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-22 08:49 am (UTC)

Bill Simmons

For the record, I loathe that writer, Bill Simmons. To take his advice would be a grave error. ;D

I'm not of the popular opinion, but I certainly provide what I can for my opinion.

I'm not sure if it broke the ice, as much as it broke a few hearts upon my words.
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[User Picture]From: salivar
2005-11-22 08:55 am (UTC)

Re: Bill Simmons

What do people forget to realize in this situation?

C'mon, you know the answer to this.

This isn't Clint Malarchuk.

I'm way more freaked by blood than a seizure.

Usually, events are decided upon by precedents.

The precedents said, play on.

History said, play on.

Bryan Berard said, play on.

They stopped play.

Both teams will feel the wrath of the old Wales and Campbell divisions and get bounced early from the postseason.


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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-22 09:02 am (UTC)

Re: Bill Simmons

It's very hard to forgive an organization that feels necessary to cease operation of business for that length of time, given their relative financial ability to withstand that length of time without complete financial collapse.

I don't fault the owners for putting the screws to the players. I like that kind of action. It falls in line with the general dominance of owners in our society.

I believe the way they conducted it was a bit off the mark. I would have liked more flair. Maybe some spittle-laced tirades from both sides in front of cameras and reporters . . . buckets of fish, and maybe some New Year's noisemakers for emphasis at the end of sentences.
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[User Picture]From: salivar
2005-11-22 09:05 am (UTC)

Re: Bill Simmons

You're in the wrong blue-collar city for spittle laced tirades.

Look towards the east to Pittsburgh, where Bill Cowher coaches with his hand in front of his mouth. His hand in front of his mouth?

As Mr. T said, "Because I'm polite."

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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-22 09:07 am (UTC)

Re: Bill Simmons

There's a Cowboy, I think, by the last name of Polite.

I'm in the wrong city for a lot of the things I hold dear and despise. I was never comfortable with Detroit.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-22 09:06 am (UTC)

Re: Bill Simmons

While watching it, for many minutes, the announcers had no information but every sense of serious tone.

I observed this tense moment, and I wondered if Jiri was hit in the neck with a stick. I swear I thought, by the way they treated this incident, that he'd nicked his jugular.

When I found out it was a seizure so serious as to have stopped his heart, (I wasn't aware that seizures could do that), I actually felt deep concern for him.

Again, in the same breath, they immediately announced the cancellation of the game, right after they announced to the crowd that Jiri was in stable condition.
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[User Picture]From: anima
2005-11-22 08:12 am (UTC)
I think stopping the game was the right thing to do. It sends a message to the people watching that they value the well-being of the players. The more games that continue after serious injuries and or deaths (game-related or not) the more insensitive crowds become. The mentality that breeds is unhealthy in my opinion.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-22 08:35 am (UTC)
Traditionally, throughout history, humanity has shown complete insensitivity. That's beside the point, however.

After any serious injury, any player who shows no concern for their teammate may actually need to find themselves a free moment to seriously consider their lack of compassion.

Most players always respond with the proper concern and general unhinged state. This is part of the natural human good.

In case of a death, there have been numerous cases of continuation of play. The right or wrong of continuation of play in case of death, I feel, is a different argument.

I'll leave out the necessity of certain individuals to perform their duties (police/armed forces) while suffering the pain of compassion for another of their group who has been injured/crippled/killed.

I'll even ignore the relative king's ransom that the players and the business enjoys for income.

One, I feel, can completely feel for the well-being of another, while continuing play of the game, even posting the linked argument, with the ability to separate sensitivity from obligation.

Of which, I was under no obligation to post. However, I knew that I would receive the incendiary responses and the cat-calls from the ludicrous. That was part of my exercise, and I enjoyed that feature.

The world operates on so many levels at the same time. I sincerely doubt the continuation of the game would have degraded the sensitivity any further than humanity has always held with fragile grasp.

I hold you in high regard, despite your feeling that it is the right call.

Obviously, I prove to hold a view in the minority.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-22 09:17 am (UTC)
I haven't dissected a particular part of the topic, in regard to how people respond on such instances of serious injury or death.

My Heidi responded to my argument that both sides are right, with implication that my side and the other were as wrong as right in some way.

She may be correct.

I have this feeling that ladies may respond with agreement of the cancellation of the game in far greater numbers than men.

Also, I completely understand the necessity of cancellation of a pick-up game of a sport when someone suffers an injury or worse which requires a trip to the hospital.

After all, in a pick-up game, it truly is just a game, and the people involved should feel complete concern for their friend in jeopardy.

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[User Picture]From: anima
2005-11-22 09:36 am (UTC)
I think you may be right about women responding differently then men. I'll ask my husband what he thinks when I call him. I bet he would think they should continue the game. Then again he might be happy the game was cancelled because he doesn't have access to center ice right now. :)
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-22 09:43 am (UTC)
As always, we humans respond with many degrees of selfishness. ;D
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[User Picture]From: renazle_dazzle
2005-11-22 03:24 pm (UTC)
haha internet special olympics it makes me think of this...

I had that on my lame myspace account, and this guy started arguing with me and called me a cunt because the picture was offensive.
ahhh those were the days.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-22 04:33 pm (UTC)
I already knew which one that is, even though I can't see it. I tracked back that link, and yes, I was correct!

It's the picture of the down's syndrome kid breaking the tape on a meter-dash. I like that picture, and I remind myself every day that in the grand scheme of life, that human is not very far off with intelligence from the rest of us dummies. ;D
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From: wlee
2005-11-22 04:18 pm (UTC)

Where the money lies...

They get paid enough...if one of those big, surly motherfuckers dies while playing the game I say fuck em.

Until Pro sports starts paying players only for winning the game I cannot feel bad for the few that die or are crippled in the process.

There is no other profession in the world where you can loose on a constant basis and/or not even play in the games and still make millions of dollars.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-22 04:30 pm (UTC)

Re: Where the money lies...

I'm actually in extremist agreement with you on the need to strip players of riches and drag them down to level of commoners. Sport was never made well for the eyes of only the king. Commoners demand a sport which fills itself with players no better or worse off in a majority.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-22 07:32 pm (UTC)

I Believe This Poll Speaks Volumes.

That's a Decent Number of People to Discount, Let Alone Donkey Punch.

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[User Picture]From: fruitpunch76
2005-11-23 03:13 am (UTC)
I apparently heard that they were set to restart the game per NHL rules. Then they changed their mind. Well....at least Fischer is ok. They could have finished the game though.....sigh.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2005-11-23 05:00 am (UTC)
Well, they're getting a free pass, or so it seems in the media, maybe because the NHL is struggling.

Even Mitch Albom stayed away from this viewpoint in his daily opinion column.

He was all over it, but he wouldn't address it.

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