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Pistons Start Season Almost Quiet, 2-2. [Nov. 8th, 2006|06:00 pm]
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Rasheed don't like it.

In the first four games, Detroit went 2-2. Rasheed Wallace picked up 4 technical fouls over the first four games. He's on pace to destroy his previous league record. Techs for laughing and dirty looks are in full effect.

I'd caution Rasheed to STFU, but I'm on his side in this situation. Kevin Garnett, one of the league's elite players, called the activity by the referees almost "un-American." I remember that Carmelo Anthony and Mike Bibby were two players who joined Rasheed with ejections for 2-techs in their first game. The league absolutely wants these players to play, seemingly, with no emotion. If one is to argue or discuss with a refree, it must be in a hushed tone in front of a screaming crowd of tens of thousands.

What's next, David? A ban on tattoos?

The NBA is still tons of fun, but the rules and the controversy are getting in the way. Stern didn't need to change the ball. Stern didn't need to clamp down on players without clamping down on the referees. I was somewhat pleased to see the dress-code installed last year, but at this point, it's starting to look like David's turing the league into the Old Chaps Basketball Association.

I'm literally waiting for Rasheed to call one of the referees "Old Bean."


[User Picture]From: brushwithrob
2006-11-09 01:07 am (UTC)
It's really interesting to watch David Stern completely change the face of arguably the most edgy sport in America. Football is edgy, sure, but b-ball has more "faces" than the NFL. More personalities. It's what makes sports fun to watch.

It's why I hate A-Rod. No personality. You're the best and most talented player in baseball and your interviews are so static and boring. Talk about how great you are. Show off a little bit.

Stern = Zero personality allowed.

I love the whole "you can't take off your warm-ups when you come off the bench, you can't tear them off". That's part of the fun, for Christ's sake.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 01:10 am (UTC)
Rasheed is an extreme.

I raise an eyebrow when two of the sport's greats, Tim Duncan (on the dress code), and Kevin Garnett (on the no-tolerance), have voiced their displeasure.

Referees are literally deciding games with what seems to be an utter bias and authority to conduct their game without question.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 09:20 am (UTC)
Even the baby-king, LeBron James, I read in one report . . . he gave a thumbs-down to this mess.

It's getting out of control.

The NBAPA director floated an idle threat of legal action recently.

Basically, PA's stance is that the techs have to drop to levels from last year, or gloves come off.
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[User Picture]From: brushwithrob
2006-11-09 06:18 pm (UTC)
Yeah, exactly.
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[User Picture]From: holzerhedrpca
2006-11-09 01:40 am (UTC)
David Stern has to be the most likely person to flip out and overthrow the US government, turning it into a police state. Dick Cheney is a distant second.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 01:43 am (UTC)
I can't help but think that any other name besides his last name would have been less problematic for his authoritarian decisions.

Seriously, can anyone see why I made this?
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[User Picture]From: gjenkins05
2006-11-09 01:42 am (UTC)
Sorry man, you're complaining therefore you are ejected and suspended 50 games and are forced to watch continuous highlights of Michael Vick and hear Michael Irvin and Joe Thiesmann's assessment of them.

Oh wait, I don't represent the NBA. Phew. That would have sucked.

I think the new tech rules are garbage. Emotion is a part of the game. These players aren't robots. This is almost worse than the NFL. At least they allow players to do something other than nothing.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 01:45 am (UTC)
Handing out fines is the best way to keep the majority in check.

You hand out bigger fines for those who can afford them.

That's how I feel about that. With Ocho Cinco Chad, those fines get bigger, he probably stops asking TJ during interviews if he wants to get fined, and offering to pay all the fines.
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[User Picture]From: gjenkins05
2006-11-09 01:48 am (UTC)
Ejections send a clearer message than fines, but I still think that in any instance there will be some sort of emotion and arguing involved, as long as the player doesn't get overzealous with it it is fine. T'ing a guy up because he made a frowny face is bullshit.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 02:02 am (UTC)
The Rasheed Laughing Tech during the Cleveland game in last year's regular season is when I woke up to how much the referees tend to slant their decisions against him. That tech involved retaliation by Zydrunas Ilgauskas for a cut he received from Rasheed's elbow during a collision in a previous match. He went so far as to utter some garbage while Rasheed was lying on the floor after he was knocked down by Ilgauskas. The referees gave a tech to Z, but when Rasheed essentially stayed on the ground to avoid Z, and Rasheed started to laugh at him, then the refs assessed another tech on Rasheed.

This wouldn't be an issue if the ejections and the techs were often applied with some balance. They're teching assistant coaches on Detroit's staff, too. Basically, anyone that raises their voice gets it. However, I've already noticed that some other players less likely to get into arguments are starting to be overlooked in the no-tolerance policy.

Gordan Giricek on Utah started a complaint with a referee during Detroit's last game. No tech on that was given.

I really feel if the NBA referees weren't with such a lack of balance with their decisions, this wouldn't be an issue. There's little recourse when they make mistakes.
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[User Picture]From: gjenkins05
2006-11-09 02:20 am (UTC)
For some of my classes, we've actually been looking at the dynamics of the power differencial in race, the way systems have been set up to keep the people in power, in power, etc. and one thing I keep thinking about with that perspective is how sports is horrendously disjointed as a system by race. In sports mostly populated with white athletes, you can get away with pretty much anything. Sports populated with black athletes, you can't show any sort of self expression without being punished.

The fact you mentioned Gordan Giricek, who is white, complaining and getting no T reminded me of this theory.

A bit of a stretch, probably. But I just thought it was interesting when it popped into my head one night when they were talking about the new rule for techs in the NBA and Ocho Cinco. lol

Mind you, I'm not trying to play the race card at all here, but I am thinking of things from a systemic perspective of how basically all of America has been founded since it was established. Not a whole lot has changed. lol
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 02:39 am (UTC)
It's the majority in any population that will maintain their collective power regardless of whatever legislation.

The other thing is that I see Tayshaun Prince, who is generally soft-spoken, getting the chance to speak. It really is the emotion, however, from anyone that is getting utterly trounced in the NBA, in particular.

It's not even relegated to players. Stern's been going after Mark Cuban, too.

While I think Mark's a little over-the-top as an owner, I don't want to see him run out of the league.

As far as money is concerned, however, that I think we may end up in disagreement. For instance, Rasheed can afford some fines. He's getting somewhere in between 13-16 million, from rough memory, for this season. 100,000 dollar fines, for example, even if they were to total 40 techs, well, 4 million dollars is something he can afford to lose.
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[User Picture]From: gjenkins05
2006-11-09 02:54 am (UTC)
I agree fines could be used in a productive manner to send a message, I am just not sure how they'd justify that without punishing a guy in game. If I knew I was going to get my money taken away from me, I'd make damn sure I got my money's worth. So it kind of works both ways. If you are going to fine me the same amount whether I bitch a little, or go all Milton Bradley when he was a Dodger, I'd go Bradley just to make it worth my while.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 03:05 am (UTC)
I guess I'm alluding to Rasheed's stance, post-ejection.

"I'll keep doin' what I'm doin.'" was basically his response, and while he's curtailed himself a little, the league expects him to go cold turkey. It's not going to work. He'll uproar all up in the ass of everyone about it, indefinitely.

I'm a profiteer in this situation. My first response to conflict - how do I turn a profit? NBA officials and league office clearly want to turn the league into the Old Chaps Association. The league's filled with Let the Boys Be Boys.

In this case, league could at least exploit this situation for money in the bank. Taking more of Rasheed's salary at least is a fair trade for his unrelenting verbal presence.

By ejection of any player, in a different angle, the league takes it upon themselves to be the focus. Instead of fines and free throws being awarded to the other team - they single-handedly cause momentum plus short-handed situation in favor of the other team. Deciding outcomes in such a way can be argued with regard to momentum and short-handed situations.

I almost want to change my stance of how Artest was thrown out for the year in 2004-2005. That clearly short-handed Indiana immensely, and it gave everyone in the division the upper hand. The only reason why I wouldn't change it is because what took place, I feel, on that day . . . completely on the hands of Artest and Stephen Jackson. Rasheed at least behaves himself off the court, more or less, especially since he became a Piston. Jackson just got involved in a shooting incident. Those two are likely to start things with physical behavior, and that seems a step too far in comparison to a loud mouth.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 02:44 am (UTC)
Oh shi almost forgot to finish point - even though 'Sheed could bank 4 million in fines, losing four million dollars really hurts.

The guy Allen, T-Blazers owner, he's losing tons of money from foolish management and utter futility. While his bulk of the argument was utter foolishness in sum, he made a valid point - just because I'm a moneybags, that doesn't mean I feel good or can ignore loss of money.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 03:54 am (UTC)

Now It's a Full Scale Tech Assault on Detroit.

Billups and Mohammed have techs in the game @ Sacramento.

Last game, an assistant coach got a tech.

Might as well let the refs call no fouls for Detroit, too, and let's legislate Detroit into a 60 loss season because they don't fit the mold.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 04:23 am (UTC)


That Kenny Thomas technical foul sealed it.

Kenny, a generally silent player in the NBA, reacted in frustration to a lost lead whittled down to 1 point in favor of Sacramento in the 2nd, 29-28.

Kenny bounced the ball hard off the floor to vent.

The referee slapped him with a tech.

This is too much.

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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 04:49 am (UTC)

Why I Know This Issue Will Likely Build to an Explosion Point

As Rasheed was arguing his 3rd foul, he was clearly grumbling from what I could hear from the FSN feed.

He was subbed out, and no tech was called. There's inconsistency right there.

While he made his way to the bench, a fan could be heard quite loudly in address of Wallace. The fan must have been very close to the announcer's microphones to be heard like that.

"Yeah, close your mouth. Yeah! CLOSE YOUR MOUTH," ordered the fan to Wallace, and Rasheed clearly heard it because he did turn the way of the fan's voice as he made his way to the bench.

This shit's gotta stop. It's going to cost the league. The tech issue has now become too much of a focus. Something's wrong.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 04:59 am (UTC)


That was during his 2nd foul.

3rd foul came just at the start of the 2nd half.

Sheed shoved Rahim and drew a foul.

The fan was right back at it.


Rasheed just smiled and shook his head.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-09 06:35 am (UTC)

Atrocious Game to Watch - Minus Kenny Martin and Corliss Williamson.

Kings owned the court.

They even had 3 techs called on their team to Detroit's 2.

That's 5 techs too many.

The refs have to shove that whistle in the pocket. This shit is bananas. B-A-N-A-N-A-S.
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-10 08:16 am (UTC)


Kevin Martin, lol.
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From: joefitz84
2006-11-10 07:36 pm (UTC)
sheed has a big sign on his back that says "T me up, im a jerk"

hes got to calm down
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[User Picture]From: sauce1977
2006-11-10 09:54 pm (UTC)
I might agree with that if it wasn't as extreme of a situation that he's put into . . .

He did make efforts over the last couple games to control himself. Last game . . . 5 techs, none for Rasheed.

Problem is they want him out there practically with a paper bag on his head. They don't even want to see him. Seriously. It's like they want him to change his name to Silent McNotfuckingthere and wipe any vestige of himself off and out the Old Chaps Club.

You know how Shaq had flagrant foul troubles in 2005-2006? Yeah, it's that kind of problem.

Also, last game, Rasheed ended up shooting like crap. It wasn't because Sac's D was tight. Ron Artest can't cover 5 people. I think it's the unhealthy attention and lack of tolerance in particular that the referees show him.

I think the NBA referees are beyond horrible. I used to think MLB umpires were terrible with the strike zones, and NFL refs make some strange calls, but nobody ruins their sport quite like NBA refs.

If anyone needs something, it's pink slips for every one of those sad pieces of shit.
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